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Cannabis in liquor store or free for all

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The Canadian cannabis community has always had distinctly different, some say very divided, types of cannabis consumers generally labelled as recreational, medical, activist and advocate.

The civil disobedience smoke out we’re here we’re high get use to it public disruptive demonstrations where the goal is to get arrested, charged, jailed and have their day in court. Some claim the cannabis “activist” label is only deserved by those that have been arrested and imprisoned for their civil disobedience actions. Some people not involved in public civil disobedience have become activists because they have already been arrested for drug possession. Civil disobedience scarifies have worked in some cases as intended and brought about many positive changes and policy reforms over many decades. The ever popular reefer madness stereotypes has made it just to easy to ignore the smoke out civil disobedience activists or brush them off as only want to created trouble get stoned dirty old hippies encouraging the youth to consume cannabis.
Now on the other side add what some call the polite “advocate” or “drug policy reformer”. Whatever your preferred label is polite “activist” or “advocate” there is a distinctly different avenue of actions to achieve drug policy reforms. The goal being to gain the respect of the people with control of our daily lives, politicians, police and the media. The goal being to make it more difficult for the people with control of our daily lives to continue to ignore evidence and science . Educate them to at least look at the actual drug policy evidence and science then start reforming the current known failed criminal prohibition drug polices.
The point being cannabis communities contain everything from one extreme to the other and everything in between. The opinions on selling of cannabis products in a liquor store is no different. The distinct differences range from regulated sales in liquor stores to no regulations free for all. The pro regulation liquor store sales say it will speed up the the transition to repealing criminal prohibition allowing adult cannabis access. Reduce costs because the liquor store infrastructure is already in place and operating with a proven history. Additionally it will likely make it more difficult for the reefer madness politicians like Rona Ambrose to advocate for even more restrictive laws then the current provincial liquor laws. Then still continue the education cannabis is saver then alcohol and has medical benefits that requires much more medical benefits research and less restrictions then alcohol.
Free for all. Sadly it comes down to some humans can be corrupted and just can’t be trusted in control of production and distribution of any product or service. There always is people that will ignore all safety concerns and do whatever it takes for profit and power over others. Regulated recreation control in Colorado and heavily regulated Canadian licenced medical cannabis producers have had to recall products several times to date. Some companies in the car manufacturing industry had to admit they done whatever it takes for profit. What have people been consuming with the product coming from who knows where. The biggest price being paid is people are dying everyday due to the corrupt actions of others.

Rabid prohibitionist Pamela McColl breaks the law with her SAM effort

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Prohibit cannabisRabid prohibitionist Pamela McColl breaks the law with her efforts to force police to punish people involved in cannabis community activities. When her relentless complaints to Vancouver Police Department about non profit medical cannabis organizations selling medical cannabis products in Vancouver BC were ignored she branch out to the RCMP and even other provinces. Medical cannabis organizations in Edmonton, Saskatoon, Halifax, Nanaimo, Vernon and likely others have been raided by the RCMP to close down these organizations.

Dec. 3 quote and letter from attorney Kirk Tousaw to rabid prohibitionist Pamela McColl from Smart Approaches to Marijuana Canada

Kirk Tousaw criminal defence lawyer, B.A., LL.B., wrote

“My letter of today’s date to Ms. Pamela McColl regarding Duncan Dabfest.”

Liberal Party wins majority!

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Liberal Party of Canada Justin Trudeau
will be the 23 PM in Canada leading with a majority government!

Finally legalization!
So much destruction for so long can now come to an end!

The oldest Canadian cannabis drug policy reform organization (1978) NORML Canada with people volunteering like President John Conroy QC, Vice President Alan Young LLB (Osgoode) & LLM, Executive Director Craig Jones PhD, along with other dedicated volunteers will continue to encourage the Liberals to ensure reasonable access for all adults and for children with health care recommendation for medical access.

Similar to the current beer and wine regulations. Adults are now allowed to produce beer or wine at home and share freely with adult family, friends and neighbours. Any adult can currently open a beer or wine producing business and many do compete successfully even with big corporations as competition.

NORML Canada President John Conroy QC October 20, 2015 statement.

I write to advise that yesterday the citizens of Canada elected the Liberal Party of Canada and gave them a whopping majority government of over 180 seats in Parliament. As part of their election campaign they promised to “legalize” cannabis and to do it right away.

The NDP is the third-party and it obtained 40 seats. “Decriminalization” was part of its campaign and right away.

The Conservatives were defeated, but will form the opposition with about 100 seats.

In other words, we have about 230 votes or more(out of a total of about 338) in favor of legalization or decriminalization in the current Parliament so this time, it should happen.

Stay tuned!!

John W. Conroy QC
Conroy & Company Barrister & Solicitor

Justin Trudeau said. “And our worries are that the current hypercontrolled approach around medical marijuana that actually removes from individuals the capacity to grow their own is not going in the right direction. It neither respects freedom or the kind of care that people need.”

Liberal Party of Canada legalize marijuana petition
Keep marijuana out of our kids’ hands
FACT: Kids have easy access to pot. It’s time to regulate and legalize marijuana.

Sign the petition here if you agree.


If cannabis were legal in Canada (CMAJ)

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Canadian Medical Association Journal (CMAJ)

Interview with Dr. Sheryl Spithoff, addiction medicine specialist and family physician at Women’s College Hospital in Toronto. In a CMAJ analysis article, Dr. Spithoff and colleagues look at policies in jurisdictions where cannabis has already been legalized. A Canadian government formed after October 2015 may move away from prohibitionist policies and create a legal framework for cannabis. If so, public health promotion and protection must be the primary goals.

SoundCloud audio interview with Dr. Sheryl Spithoff here

Full article (subscription required):

CBC News – Marijuana prohibition can do more harm than good, doctors tell federal parties

VOTE now up until Oct. 19, 2015!

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Vote now until Oct. 19, 2015

Vote at one of 400 Elections Canada offices before the Oct. 13 deadline.

Find the Elections Canada office nearest you.

Election Canada offices are open:

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Federal election 2015 –

More on vote and election topics.

The Council of Canadians – Youth pledge: I will vote!

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Strategic voting


International Centre for Science in Drug Policy

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Scientists speak out against false cannabis claims

Leading international scientific body reviews thirteen oft-repeated claims on cannabis use and regulation, finds that none are strongly supported by scientific evidence

ICSDP reviews thirteen oft-repeated claims on cannabis use and regulation and finds that none are strongly supported by scientific evidence

Dr. Dan Werb wins inaugural $1.5 million Avenir Award from US National Institute on Drug Abuse and is named Director of the ICSDP

At the United Nations in New York, the ICSDP shares scientific evidence suggesting that prohibition has been ineffective at protecting youth

Harper claims not facts!

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CTVNEWS.CA – Fact check: Harper’s statements on illegal drugs

Today decriminalize is nothing more then a net widening effect for the police. The decriminalize option might have been better received in 1972 when the Le Dain Commission Report was released in 1972.

Since 1972 there has been a larger number of real evidence based drug policy studies found prohibition type drug policies have failed miserable and to end prohibition drug polices which will reduce the harms created by decades of failed prohibition based drug policies.

September 2002 Senate Report on Cannabis: Our Position for a Canadian Public Policy and more recently in October 2014 Centre for Addiction and Mental Health (CAMH) released yet a another evidence based study called Cannabis Framework Policy.

The CAMH study like so many other past evidence based drug policy studies(1) conclusions lead to prohibition of cannabis is a seriously flawed drug control policy. Legalizing cannabis will not only greatly reduce harm to our families and communities but will allow for a much safer way to actually have some control with regulations.

No need to reinvent the wheel either. Copy the beer and wine regulations. Selling on a commercial level the products provided are regulated the same as beer and wine are now. The regulations allow people to produce their own beer and wine while also providing for private for profit businesses to sell regulated products produced in a regulated commercial facility.

Advertising in the media shouldn’t be allowed. Stop allowing alcohol advertising would also help reduce the harm caused from irresponsible use of alcohol products.

Hyper over regulation and or taxation is not the answer either if we really want to gain more control. Avoiding over regulation and or taxation will help reduce the violent criminal gangs current complete control of the cannabis market.

Educate with only evidence based facts starting with cannabis is a safer recreational drug then alcohol, coffee and many other currently legal substances.

Then use the huge amount of law enforcement resources that would become available to be more proactive in stopping crimes then just reactive after people have become victims of harm from another. Colorado has shown huge increase of tax revenue, a reduction in crime and law enforcement costs.

Canadian Drug Policy Coalition Getting To Tomorrow: A Report on Canadian Drug Policy – 2013

The report of the RSA Commission on Illegal Drugs, Communities and Public Policy. Final report: Drugs facing facts – March 2007

Canadian Public Health Association 2007 Resolutions

The Fraser Institute – Vancouver B.C. Marijuana Growth in British Columbia – May 2004

Senate Special Committee on Illegal Drugs – 2002

The Le Dain Commission Report 1972

Nixon’s Shaffer Commission report March 1970

The La Guardia Committee Report – 1944

Media stories:
Marijuana should be legalized with strict controls to curb its use and social harms, the Toronto-based Centre for Addiction and Mental Health says.
CBC News October 9, 2014

The Inside Agenda Blog
CAMH Backs Legalized Marijuana
Sandra Gionas, October 9, 2014

Health Canada Statement July 8, 2015

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THC limited to only 3%! CBD, CBN and other compounds no limits!

What evidence does Health Canada use to make this the best decision for the safety of Canadian’s health?

Health Canada Statement

Health Canada statement section 56


CTV Section 56


CBC section 56

RIP Senator Pierre-Claude Nolin, Chaired 2002 Canadian Senate Report on Cannabis

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He was the bold, independent Conservative Senator who chaired the important 2002 Senate Report on Cannabis.


Chairman: Pierre Claude Nolin
Deputy Chairman: Colin Kenny


Quotes from the 2002 Canadian Senate report
“Cannabis: Our Position for a Canadian Public Policy”

On Users and Uses:
• Close to 30% of the population has used cannabis at least once.
• Cannabis itself is not a cause of other drug use.
• Cannabis use can be a gateway because it is illegal, which puts users in contact with other substances.
• Cannabis itself is not a cause of delinquency and crime.
• Cannabis is not a cause of violence.

On Effects and Consequences:
•  The Committee concludes that the state of knowledge supports the belief that, for the vast majority of recreational users, cannabis use presents no harmful consequences for physical, psychological or social well- being in either the short or the long term.

On the Historical Context of Prohibition:
• Early legislation was largely based on a moral panic, racist sentiment and a notorious absence of debate.
• When cannabis was included in the international conventions in 1925, there was no knowledge of its effects.
• The international classifications of drugs are arbitrary and do not reflect the level of danger those substances represent to health or to society.
• Canada should inform the international community of the conclusions of our report and officially request the declassification of cannabis and its derivatives.

On Medical Marijuana and the Federal Government:
•  The MMAR (Medical Marijuana Access Regulations) are not providing a compassionate framework for access to marijuana for therapeutic purposes and are unduly restricting the availability of marijuana to patients who may receive health benefits from its use.

On Police Practices:
•  Annual costs for drug enforcement in Canada can be estimated at between $700 million and $1 billion.
• Cannabis was involved in 70% of the approximately 50,000 charges in 1999. In 43% of cases (21,381), the charge was for possession of cannabis.
• The uneven application of the law is of great concern and may lead to discriminatory enforcement, alienation of certain groups within society, and creation of an atmosphere of disrespect for the law; in general, it raises the issue of fairness and justice.

On Prevention:
• Prevention strategies in schools should not be led by police services or delivered by police officers.
• The RCMP should reconsider its choice of the DARE program.
• Harm reduction strategies related to cannabis should be developed in coordination with educators and the social services sector.

On Treatment:
• Physical dependency on cannabis is virtually non-existent.
• Psychological dependency is moderate and is certainly lower than that for nicotine or alcohol.
• Most regular users of cannabis are able to diverge from a trajectory of dependency without requiring treatment.
• As a rule, treatment is more effective and less costly than a prison sentence.

On Current Practices:
• We estimate the cost of enforcing the drug laws to be closer to $1-1.5 billion per annum.
• The principal public policy cost relative to cannabis is law enforcement and the justice system; we estimate this to represent a total of $300-$500 million per annum.
• The costs of externalities attributable to cannabis are probably minimal (no deaths, few hospitalizations, and very little loss of productivity).
• The costs of public policy on cannabis are disproportionately high given the drug’s social and health consequences.